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Trening => Bodibilding => Teretana => Muški bodibilding => Temu započeo: Robert April 26, 2012, 09:03:56 posle podne
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Tomorrow is Friday, April 27. For most of us, it's just another day. But for Victor Martinez, it's a day of reckoning that will determine the course of the rest of his life. Tomorrow, a judge decides whether to allow Victor to remain in the United States of America, or to deport him back to the nation of his citizenship, the Dominican Republic - never to be allowed back into America for the rest of his days.
For Victor, his family, and friends; at least one positive outcome is sure. His incarceration at the Hudson County Correctional Facility in Kearny, NJ will come to an end after over seven months sitting in limbo awaiting his fate in front of a U.S. Immigration judge.
Martinez's nightmare began, ironically enough, immediately after one of his greatest triumphs. After a season where he had been disappointed to take third place at the Arnold Classic and then fourth at both the Mr. Olympia and the Sheru Classic, Victor traveled to Madrid, Spain and became the first-ever Arnold Classic Europe Champion on October 8, 2011.
His celebration was to be quite short-lived. Upon his return home, Victor was detained at JFK International Airport and taken into custody. His green card as a resident legal alien had expired some time before, and had been denied renewal. Martinez knew it was only a matter of time before his case came up for review and he would be taken to a correctional facility, but of course he could never have known it would happen so closely on the heels of one of his career highlights as an IFBB Pro.
"I should have known," he told me shortly after arriving at Hudson County. "My life is a roller coaster - something good happens, then something bad, over and over again."
With access to neither weights or quality food behind bars, Victor has watched his mighty physique scale down to more average proportions. His own estimate is that he's dropped about 60 pounds of muscle in the seven months in lockup. Much has been made of this on message board as both speculations and shameless gloating have spread online like a viral shadenfraude.
Ironically, in none of my many conversations with Victor did he seem overly preoccupied with the fact that his enormous musculature was wasting away day by day. Really, it was the least of his problems. "I have four kids, and if I get deported I will hardly ever see them again," he emphasized. "I've also lost my restaurant and my home while I've been in here."
Should Victor be allowed to stay in the USA, he has a long road ahead of him rebuilding not only his physique, but his very life. In a sense it will be like starting all over from scratch as he gradually outs the pieces of his life - personal and professional - back together again.
We at MD sincerely wish Victor the very best tomorrow and every day thereafter, and we will continue to keep you updated as tomorrow's events unfold.
Source: Muscular Development
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Danas je dan D za Viktora!Nadam se da ce sve proci kako treba!!!
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I ja mu želim puno sreće. Trebaće mu.
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Slobodan je, danas sam procitao. Izgleda da cemo ga videti opet na takmicenjima :D
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lepo :)
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Da, na slobodi je. Evo i prve fotke sa slobode.
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Odlična vest..a sad Viktore napad na Olympiju :)
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Možda na Olimpiju 2013. 60 funti mišića manje je ogroman gubitak. No, svi smo znali da će se to desiti nakon toliko vremena bez adekvatne hrane, treninga i AAS-a.
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Ma neka bude i 2014 samo nek se vrati.
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Prilično je sigurna stvar da će se vratiti. Sada su sve oči uprte u njega. Čeka se da kaže kakvi su mu planovi. Ipak je mnogo finansijski pukao tokom ovih meseci, a znamo da njihove pripreme nisu nimalo jeftine.
Nisam siguran da li je izgubio sponzorstvo MHP-a. Mnogi smatraju da bi bilo pametno napraviti akciju u vidu prezentovanja njegove transformacije na putu ka takmičarskom povratku. Mnogo je kombinacija, pa da vidimo šta će se desiti. Ovo je trenutno najvrelija priča i svi je prate.
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to i katlerov biceps
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Au,svaka cast. Kada je sad ovakav,sa upola manje misica,kakav li je pre bio...Svaka cast!
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Pre je bio ovakav
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GROMADA !
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Kakav bi drugačiji bio top IFBB Pro takmičar. :)
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Najnoviji intervju i slika. 220lbs težine i nije malo, tj. situacija i nije toliko loša kako se u prvi mah činilo.
MD: Thanks for calling and I won't keep you long. I know you have a lot of catching up to do. How confident were you that you would be allowed to stay in the US? Steve told me this particular judge deports 80 percent of the cases he sees?
VM: 84 percent. Yeah, it was tricky and I was pretty worried. They were looking for reasons to deport me all along.
MD: So what do you think made the judge decide to let you stay?
VM: It was a few things, I think. I've been in the USA since I was four years old, I have four kids here, and probably most important of all - I've paid a lot of fucking taxes to Uncle Sam, and that's all on record with the IRS. So maybe he sees me as contributing to the country that way.
MD: This all happened at the Federal Building in New York City. Did you have to go back to Hudson County in New Jersey to get your stuff?
VM: No, I didn't want to go back there, I've seen enough of that place! I didn't have anything back there that was important to me. Before I left for New York I gave it all to a buddy of mine in there, my books and magazines.
MD: What was your first meal as a free man, and your second?
VM: The first thing I ate was a whole barbecue chicken with rice, and it was delicious. After that my brother took me to an Argentine steakhouse and I got a 24-ounce churrasco steak.
MD: So, are you starving now that you have access to good food again?
VM: Not really, because I haven't been training. If I don't train, I don't have much of an appetite. Once I'm back into hard training every day again, it will be a different story.
MD: Have you seen your kids yet?
VM: I saw my two girls, and I'll see my sons next week.
MD: You must be dying to train again. When will you have your first workout?
VM: I was thinking about Monday, but now I'm thinking about just going tomorrow. I need to find a yoga club or a fitness place so I can blend in!
MD: Okay, let me stop you right there. Haters have been saying you must not be about 170 pounds now. I am guessing you're nothing less than 200. What do you weigh?
VM: I'm 220. I haven't been 170 pounds since I won the Elmo's Gym contest when I was 19. I was actually 165, I started my diet at 170. Whatever, if the haters want to think I weigh 120 pounds, let them. They're the last thing on my mind now.
MD: So 220 and lean, not a bad starting point at all.
VM: Yeah, I could probably do the 212 Olympia in a few months.
MD: But seriously, you're not going to train at any of your usual gyms for a while?
VM: I think I'll stick to the Equinox Club and 19th Street Gym for at least a couple weeks just to do some full-body circuits and start getting things back to normal. It will probably take me about a month to get back up to speed and start doing one bodypart a day again.
MD: Okay, I know you have a lot going on now, so what would you like to say?
VM: I want to thank Steve Blechman and MD, Gerard Dente, all my family and friends, especially Jonathan, Dennis James, and Abby, and anyone who helped me stay positive through the last seven months. Anybody who was there for me or even who just supported and believed in me even if I never met you, I appreciate it. This was just a small chapter in my life. It happened, and it's part of what makes me me. I wouldn't change a thing. To the negative people who doubted me, have always doubted me, and will continue to doubt me, you don't know a damn thing about true warriors. We don't give up.
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jako mi je drago zbog njega
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Ma neka bude i 2014 samo nek se vrati.
Da,to je i meni bila prva pomisao!!!
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Ovakva gromada ne moze a da se ne vrati !
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Ovakva gromada ne moze a da se ne vrati !
Vratice se sigurno,samo je pitanje koja ce varijanta biti i kad!Da li ce u nekoj poluformi zbog sponzora ili ce sacekati da ude u pravu formu,pa da iznenadi neke ljude!Ostaje nam da cekamo i vidimo!
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Mislima da ćemo gledati neverovatno dobar AC 2013 sa Victorom i Cutlerom. :)
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olimpija i AC koji slede će da budu jako interesantni, čak možda i više nego proteklih godina. Neka jaka imena su imala svakojake uspone i padove, što će sve učiniti daleko zanimljivijim (jeste malo glupo kad se ovako kaže, ali o5 tako je)
na olimpiji Fil, Brenč i Kai (i Jay ako se pojavi - sve oči uperene u njega)
na AC što kaže Rob: Brenč, Jay i Viktor
can't wait
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Samo da radi streaming. ;D :P
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Mislima da ćemo gledati neverovatno dobar AC 2013 sa Victorom i Cutlerom. :)
I AC i Mr.O ce biti interesantnija no ikad,gde god se Jay pojavio(ja se ipak nadam da ce na Mr.O,ali videcemo!),jedva cekam!Samo da se niko vise ne ozledi!!!
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Sad, kad bolje razmislim, ipak sam više za varijantu da Jay preskočio ovogodišnju Olympiu jer mislim da ne može napraviti do tada formu na koju nas je navikao poslednjih godina. A, pošto sam veliki njegov fan i želim mu sve najbolje, lakše mi je da čekam AC i odličnu konkurenciju nego da ga vidim lošeg na Olympiji. :)
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Svaka ti je na mestu Roberte. Nadam se da će te Yay poslušati.
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Sad, kad bolje razmislim, ipak sam više za varijantu da Jay preskočio ovogodišnju Olympiu jer mislim da ne može napraviti do tada formu na koju nas je navikao poslednjih godina. A, pošto sam veliki njegov fan i želim mu sve najbolje, lakše mi je da čekam AC i odličnu konkurenciju nego da ga vidim lošeg na Olympiji. :)
nije fora u tome šta je nama lakše, već šta će on više da unovči ;D
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Ma, to svakako. Ja samo pričam moje viĂ°enje priče, ali svakako on zna najbolje šta mu je činiti i da li će izaći na Mr. O u nekoj polu formi. :) Neću mu zameriti šta god učinio. ;D :D
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To su verni fanovi ! :P
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Sad, kad bolje razmislim, ipak sam više za varijantu da Jay preskočio ovogodišnju Olympiu jer mislim da ne može napraviti do tada formu na koju nas je navikao poslednjih godina. A, pošto sam veliki njegov fan i želim mu sve najbolje, lakše mi je da čekam AC i odličnu konkurenciju nego da ga vidim lošeg na Olympiji. :)
nije fora u tome šta je nama lakše, već šta će on više da unovči ;D
Tako je, sve je to oko kinte. Ako mu se bude isplatilo, izaci ce svakako.
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Verovatno će mu se finansijski svakako isplatiti da izaĂ°e na takmičenje, ali je pitanje da li će on gledati samo tu stranu medalje ili će ipak, pošto mu novca svakako ne manjka, drugačije sagledati stvari i preskočiti Mr. O.
Recimo, sa Victorom je skroz drugačija priča. On je finanskijski skroz pukao. Ako MD i MHP stanu iza njega, mislim da će pokušati da izaĂ°e na Mr. O. U suprotnom, trebaće mu više vremena da naĂ°e sponzore i adekvatno se spremi.
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Sad, kad bolje razmislim, ipak sam više za varijantu da Jay preskočio ovogodišnju Olympiu jer mislim da ne može napraviti do tada formu na koju nas je navikao poslednjih godina. A, pošto sam veliki njegov fan i želim mu sve najbolje, lakše mi je da čekam AC i odličnu konkurenciju nego da ga vidim lošeg na Olympiji. :)
nije fora u tome šta je nama lakše, već šta će on više da unovči ;D
Apsolutno se slazem!!!
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Sve se vrti oko para.
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Dobro je, MHP je ostao uz Viktora. :) Kao što su mnogi i razmišljali, ovih dana počinje pravljenje filma koji će se baviti praćenjem transformacije i povratak 50ak funti izgubljenih mišića. Pravi potez, isplativ za sve. Jedva čekam. :)
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Jao, koja ce hemija sad da padne :D ima da dobija 2-3kg cistih misica mesecno :D
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Viktor je pre neki dan napisao status na fb u ovom fazonu: "bio sam do MHP centrale i pokupio brdo proizvoda" :D
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Kako bi bilo lepo imati neogranicen budzet za suplementaciju i hranu, poput njega. Mislim da bi se za godinu dana moglo napraviti cudo :) naravno, vazi za one koji umeju da se pridrzavaju BB rezimu...
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Nikad ne reci nikad...:D Ko zna,moguce je sve...;) :)
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Dobro je, MHP je ostao uz Viktora. :) Kao što su mnogi i razmišljali, ovih dana počinje pravljenje filma koji će se baviti praćenjem transformacije i povratak 50ak funti izgubljenih mišića. Pravi potez, isplativ za sve. Jedva čekam. :)
jako lepo :)
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Viktor je pre neki dan napisao status na fb u ovom fazonu: "bio sam do MHP centrale i pokupio brdo proizvoda" :D
Dobro je,bas mi je drago,sad nam ostaje da vidimo sta ce moci Viktor da uradi!!!Zelim mu sve najbolje!!!
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Najnoviji intervju
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pulcinella-productions/4389-victor-martinez-video-interview-may-4-2012.html (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pulcinella-productions/4389-victor-martinez-video-interview-may-4-2012.html)
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Najnovija fotka sa treninga. :)
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Ma vraca se on u formu,100 %...:D
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Mada posle ove fotke sto je Robert postavio sve vise sam siguran da nece uspeti da se adekvatno spremi do Olympije,pre ce to biti AC sledece godine!Ali u svakom slucaju na dobrom je putu! ;)
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Bitno da opet ima "privilegiju" da trenira i uživa u tome. Mogu da zamislim kako sada uživa. Kada su ga pitali kako se osećao kada je prvi put kročio u teretanu nakon izlaska iz zatvora, rekao je: "osećao sam se isto kao kada sam davno prvi put ušao u teratanu, samo što sam ovoga puta znao kako se koriste sprave". :)
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Mada posle ove fotke sto je Robert postavio sve vise sam siguran da nece uspeti da se adekvatno spremi do Olympije,pre ce to biti AC sledece godine!Ali u svakom slucaju na dobrom je putu! ;)
ma dobro, vraćanje na olimpiju za ovo vreme posle onoga bi stvarno bilo nerealno - nije on jay :P haha ;D
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Bitno da opet ima "privilegiju" da trenira i uživa u tome. Mogu da zamislim kako sada uživa. Kada su ga pitali kako se osećao kada je prvi put kročio u teretanu nakon izlaska iz zatvora, rekao je: "osećao sam se isto kao kada sam davno prvi put ušao u teratanu, samo što sam ovoga puta znao kako se koriste sprave". :)
Tako je meni bilo posle vojske,tako da ga potpuno razumem!!!
Biochemo-:D
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Napreduje, napreduje. :)
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Da,napreduje,ali ja jos uvek ostajem pri tome da ne verujem da ce uspeti da se vrati u potpunu formu do Olympije!Za AC da,ali za Olimpiju ne.Ali moram priznati(jeste da samo sa prikazenih slika,koja cesto znaju da varaju!)da je puno napredovao!!!
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Moguce je da mu je odmor prijao i da su receptori otvoreni.Nemojte se iznenaditi ,po meni ako finansijski dobro stoji da isprati celu pricu za pripreme bice veliko iznenadjenje!
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Zamisli da treniras u istoj teretani sa njim...:D
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Sigurno bi bilo sjajno gledati ga uživo. Ja sam već imao nekoliko iskustava u treninzima sa ozbiljnim bb takmičarima u Nemačkoj i osećaj je odličan. Imao sam kontakt i sa Markusom i Simone RĂĽhl, koji imaju teretanu u blizini mog prebivališta u Nemačkoj, i trebali bi da odradimo barem jedan zajednički trening, gde će biti fotki i kratkog intervjua. :)
Da nemam članarinu u McFitu, razmislio bih i da se učlanim kod njih ali sad je kasno dok mi ne istekne ugovor. :D
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Zamisli da treniras u istoj teretani sa njim...:D
Ja bih voleo sa Cutlerom da vezbam u istoj teretani!!!To bi bilo....uh....
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Hah..Ko ne bi. :) Mada,svi bi se polomili,dizali bi 60% vise od onoga sto mogu,samo da bi se pokazali...:D
Roberte,jedva cekam intervju.Kad god bude bio! Inace,to za ugovore...I po tome se vidi koliko smo daleko od Nemacke i ostalih drzava...
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Victor Martinez - Back on Track!
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pulcinella-productions/4415-victor-martinez-back-on-track-by-mike-pulcinella.html
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Lepo ga je videti kako trenira!!!Mogu misliti kako li je tek njemu!!!
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Vic nabacuje ozbiljnu masu :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD3CCBpZrbU&feature=player_embedded
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Opaaa,pa on brze napreduje nego sto sam mislio!!!! ;)
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Victor Martinez Will Compete in the 2012 Olympia! Exclusive Interview
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/news/breaking-news/4491-victor-martinez-will-compete-in-the-2012-olympia-exclusive-interview.html
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To da ce se takmiciti nisam ni sumnjao,pitanje je samo u kakvoj ce biti formi....
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Jasno je rekao - da misli da ne može u najmanju ruku da ponovi prošlogodišnji plasman, ne bi ni izlazio. Videćemo da li je od reči. :D
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..i to a i motiv je kes i sponzori.u svakom slucaju nije nerealno,kao sto sam vec napisao pauza ,odmor od treninga ,obilne ishrane i AAS samo moze da mu bude i prednost i za bolji napredak.
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To na neki način šalje i zanimljivu poruku: bodibilder može da dozvoli sebi da ne pipne teg 7 meseci, izgubi 20-30kg mase i opet bude konkurentan na Mr. O. :D
Ja jedva čekam da pogledam film koji se pravi trenutno o njemu, a biće gotov nakon Mr. O.
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A ja jedva cekam da mi i to presnimis kao i ostale sto nemam!!! ;D
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Ovih dana je najaktuelniji najnoviji dvd Phil Heatha - Becoming Number 13. Ima ga i na yt, ali ga redovno brišu, pa moraš biti uporan u traženju ako hoćeš da ga odgledaš.
Ja ga skinuo preko torrenta. ;D
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Ovih dana je najaktuelniji najnoviji dvd Phil Heatha - Becoming Number 13. Ima ga i na yt, ali ga redovno brišu, pa moraš biti uporan u traženju ako hoćeš da ga odgledaš.
Ja ga skinuo preko torrenta. ;D
Nisam ni sumnjao!I to mi treba!!!:D
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skorasnja....
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Dobar je. Mada, nedavno je ubacio trun sumnje da ipak neće izaći na Mr. O.
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Dobar je. Mada, nedavno je ubacio trun sumnje da ipak neće izaći na Mr. O.
Ako on nece onda Cutler definitivno nece....:(
Jako dobro izgleda na ovoj slici!
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skorasnji trening i prica o olimpiji 2012.
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4692-victor-martinez-trains-back-a-discusses-reasons-behind-sitting-out-the-2012-olympia.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/2012-mr-olympia/4692-victor-martinez-trains-back-a-discusses-reasons-behind-sitting-out-the-2012-olympia.html)