A ovaj biotekov?ja pijem celu mericu to je 5g,znaci i kada ne treniram na prazan stomak tih 5g?

Ja bas pijem CEE od Primaforce i bas sam zadovoljan.
Pijem ga 2g pre i 2g posle treninga,a u dane pauze uzmem
2g tokom dana na prazan stomak.Tako i savetujem svima koji
ga pazare kod mene.

Da li treba piti Etil estar u danima kada se ne trenira?

Batalte CEE i ostanite pri monohidratu...

U ponudi PANSPORT-a mozete naci cist KREATIN ETIL ESTER

od sledecih firmi:

PRIMAFORCE
SNI
BIOTECH

 

to je nazalost tesko objasniti populaciji.
ja neznam samo okle ovome narodu pare da se zamlacuje sa svim tim suplementima?
ja da imam mjesecno 300e samo za suplemente pa ni po jada da kupim nesto od toga,ali sigurno bi uzeo tone wheya bcaa i glutamina!

Ma ja sam vec rekao poentu,sav kreatin radi istu stvar to treba svatiti

Jedino je CM clinicki proveren i dokazn da radi.Dok za ostale oblike kreatina mozemo samo da procitamo tvrdnje proizvodjaca, koje su uvek pozitivne, za koje se nikad nezna dali su tacne dok se ne proveri licno, a i tada je tesko utvrditi dali je bolji ili gori od monoa

Point is :Monohydrate is supreme

pa tako nekako ispada he he

Point is :Monohydrate is supreme

evo vam o CEE


Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid
Child R1 and Tallon MJ2 1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, DrChild @CR-Technologies.net

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV)

After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.

CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.

stvarno ne znam sta da mislim 

evo vam o CEE


Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid
Child R1 and Tallon MJ2 1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, DrChild @CR-Technologies.net

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV)

After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.

CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.

Kreatin etilestar prolazi kroz ćelijsku membranu bez prenosioca, što znači bolju apsorpciju!!! Ova forma ne izaziva nadimanje i nelagodnost u stomaku, brzo se apsorbuje u mišićno tkivo podržavajući sintezu ATP-a, snažnu unutarćelijsku volumizaciju, rast mišića, snagu  i izdržljivost.

I zato sto sam prodire u misicnu celiju bez prenosioca nemora da se pauzira sa uzimanjem CEE-a, moze da se pije bez prestanka...u teoriji

Kreatin etilestar prolazi kroz ćelijsku membranu bez prenosioca, što znači bolju apsorpciju!!! Ova forma ne izaziva nadimanje i nelagodnost u stomaku, brzo se apsorbuje u mišićno tkivo podržavajući sintezu ATP-a, snažnu unutarćelijsku volumizaciju, rast mišića, snagu  i izdržljivost.

1680, ako se pije 2X2g(kao i preporuceno) traje 2 meseca, ali meni nekako malo izgleda samo 4g dnevno.Evo vidi
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