dobro da uzmem onda 1kg? 
i sad doziranje ide ovako koliko se secam:

-punjenje prvih sedam dana, svaki dan oko 30 grama (5x na dan po jedna kafena)
-posle punjenja svakog dana uzimam 10 grama posle treninga (2 kafene)
-u danima kad ne treniram uzimam jednu kafenu ujutru cim ustanem na prazan stomak

Ili bese drugacije? Imam 98 kg trenutno i na masi sam pa ako ima neko drugaciji(bolji) predlog nek se javi

punjenje ako radis dosta 4-5 dana

posle treninga 5 grama,nisi koleman da ti treba 10

Razlicite kombinacije imas.Svi mi radimo drugacije i cuces ovde razlicite teorije.Sve su one manje vise dobre ali opet ne znaci da ces i ti imati iste rezultate.Probaj kao sto si napisao pa ces posle nekog vremena videti postignuto.Ako nisi zadovoljan onda menjaj i trazi dobitnu kombinaciju.

Ja ne bih radio punjenje...

Isao bih ovako, 5 g ujutru, i 10 g posle treninga (a mozes da dodas i 5 prije treninga) kada treniras
A kada ne treniras 5 ujutru, 5 u toku dana (na prazan stomak)

I ja uskoro pocinjem sa crea, pa slazete li se sa ovim ?

dobro da uzmem onda 1kg? 
i sad doziranje ide ovako koliko se secam:

-punjenje prvih sedam dana, svaki dan oko 30 grama (5x na dan po jedna kafena)
-posle punjenja svakog dana uzimam 10 grama posle treninga (2 kafene)
-u danima kad ne treniram uzimam jednu kafenu ujutru cim ustanem na prazan stomak

Ili bese drugacije? Imam 98 kg trenutno i na masi sam pa ako ima neko drugaciji(bolji) predlog nek se javi

GIEFPLOX!!1

ne
ali
razmisljam
da
ti
doniram
tastaturu
imam
2
jeli
zelis?
:
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?
?
?
.
.
.
   -.-

a
zasto
ti
pises
ovako

veoma
je
iritantno
ok
?
:
)

zato
shto
sam
prochitao
negde
da
je
to
kul...

ne
slazesh
se?

 

Dobro,zanimljivo je probati nesto novo
Bar kreatini nisu skupi

zato sto stoci ne radi space mene ubija kad citam njegove postove

a
zasto
ti
pises
ovako

veoma
je
iritantno
ok
?
:
)

ima
koristi
ima
i
koga
zanima...potrebno
je
2min
da
se
prochita
tako
da
tnxBojanu...

ma
ako
99%monohidrata
ne
prelazi
u
kreatinin
ne
vidim
potrebu
za
trazenjem
,,svetogGrala''


tl;dr
svi
MAGICHNIkreatini
su
inferiorni
naspram
MONOHIDRATA!!!

Ako hoces da postavis nesto korisno,bolje ga sledeci pu prevedi,ovako me,kao i vecinu ostalih,mrzi da citam ovako,pa nema
nikakve koristi od toga

Ne bih da se blamiram sa ne strucnim prevodom, a koga zanima taj ce se sam potruditi da vidi o cemu se konkretno radi.

 

Moram trgovat kreatin pa se dvoumim izmedju labrade i dymatize.
Dymatize sam koristio do sad i dobar je.
Kanim se da uzmem labradin pa me interesuje vashe mishljenje.

Dobra su oba
Uzmi koji hoces
Evo da to olaksam,uzmi labradu

Ovo sam nasao na nekom forumu, ne znam da li je to bilo ovde, pa reko da postavim :

Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid

Child R1 and Tallon MJ2

1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, DrChild@CR-Technologies.net

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (Creapure?). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV)

After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.

CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.

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Kre-alkalyn? supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.

Tallon MJ1 and Child R2

1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net

All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn? (KA) a ?Buffered? creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.

This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (Creapure?). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.

In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.

Ako hoces da postavis nesto korisno,bolje ga sledeci pu prevedi,ovako me,kao i vecinu ostalih,mrzi da citam ovako,pa nema
nikakve koristi od toga

i ako je potrebno jos jednom reci,drste se Monohidrata

Ovo sam nasao na nekom forumu, ne znam da li je to bilo ovde, pa reko da postavim :

Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid

Child R1 and Tallon MJ2

1Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. 2University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, DrChild@CR-Technologies.net

Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) is a commercially available synthetic creatine that is now widely used in dietary supplements. It comprises of creatine with an ethyl group attached and this molecular configuration is reported to provide several advantages over creatine monohydrate (CM). The Medical Research Institute (CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (CE2) provides greater solubility in lipids, leading to improved absorption. Similarly San (San Corporation, CA, USA) claim that the CEE in their product (San CM2 Alpha) avoids the breakdown of creatine to creatinine in stomach acids. Ultimately it is claimed that CEE products provide greater absorption and efficacy than CM. To date, none of these claims have been evaluated by an independent, or university laboratory and no comparative data are available on CEE and CM.

This study assessed the availability of creatine from three commercial creatine products during degradation in acidic conditions similar to those that occur in the stomach. They comprised of two products containing CEE (San CM2 Alpha and CE2) and commercially available CM (Creapure?). An independent laboratory, using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP), performed the analysis. Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes. Creatine availability was assessed by immediately assaying for free creatine, CEE and the creatine breakdown product creatinine, using HPLC (UV)

After 30 minutes incubation only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2, while the amount of CEE available from San CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%. In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from the CM product. These reductions in CEE availability were accompanied by substantial creatinine formation, without the appearance of free creatine. After 120minutes incubation 72% of the CEE was available from CE2 with only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha, while more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.

CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.

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Kre-alkalyn? supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.

Tallon MJ1 and Child R2

1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net

All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn? (KA) a ?Buffered? creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.

This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (Creapure?). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.

In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.